Talk:Elder

The Elder Dragons of Dominia
Does a primary source for this title exist? If no I would suggest changing it to Elder Dragons from Legends (naming the release set and not something which is obviously disputed) - Yandere Sliver 17:58, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The only one disputing it, is you :-) It has always been Dominia, because the Elder Dragon Wars were interplanar, the term is previsonist and the term "Legends" is not part of the story. Original source is Elder Dragons (comic) --Hunter (talk) 18:20, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * It is not only me disputing it. There was another anonymous user which changed it to Dominaria. And I thought The Elder Dragons of the Multiverse does not sound like it gives you much more information then simply saying Elder Dragons, because well everything is in the multiverse. And without a primary source the name is disputable... It is as simple as that. However I am fine with your answer. I guess you have read the comics and the term is coined in one of the two issues. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 19:10, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Should we now change the name to Elder Dragons of Dominaria? It has been confirmed that their war wasn't interplanar (much to my chagrin), but happened exclusively on Dominaria (at least for everyone but Bolas and Ugin) --Firebead elvenhair (talk) 15:14, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Good question. It was kind of a retcon and as I understood it the other Elder Dragons can't leave Dominaria since they never sparked. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 15:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I share your chagrin, but we've lost the fight it seems. I think we can't avoid changing it to Dominaria. --Hunter (talk) 15:45, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Order of names
I would suggest putting the names of the dragon in WUBRG order, instead of what is seemingly a random order for the Legend's dragons (possibly with mana symbol next to their names). As for the tarkir dragons, Dromoka, who is core white, should be a the top of the list (above ojutai, who is core blue). The others are in the correct order.

(note that i would do it myself, but the page is protected)

Change in meaning
Hi. The page is still protected, and i still can't edit it. i'd like to re-ask for the dragons to follow the WUBRG order so: Arcades Sabboth, Chromium Rhuell, Nicol Bolas, Vaevictis Asmadi, Palladia-Mors. And like i said above, Dromoka is core white and should go above Ojutai who is core blue.

Now for the new changes i'd like to suggest: We should clarify that originally, "Elder Dragon" was meant as a unified creature type describing a race; but that starting with Tarkir it became an adjective describing venerable creatures whose importance creative wanted to emphasize. Considering the fact that looking forward, wizard won't stop printing new elder, i'm unconvinced of the necessity to create a new paragraph listing them all; but admitedly this can wait until the list becomes a little more unwieldy. Thanks in advance for making the changes and/or unprotecting the page.--82.241.183.243 16:52, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Unprotected for now. Please go ahead. --Hunter (talk) 16:59, 24 March 2018 (UTC)