User talk:LegacymtgsalvationUser9909/July-December, 2008

= Talk! = Please remember to sign your messages with four tildes ( ~ ) and use topic lines/headers ( ==Topic name== ). Also, please, I'd like to request that you do not blank your messages/remove them (in time, I will remove comments and archive them). Thank you very much. --MM (talk) 05:45, 20 February 2007 (CST)

Dear MM
Dear MM. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=2995955&postcount=163 How about you just leave me alone instead? I mean, you have already linked them my myspace and called me crazy.... How about we just leave it at that? Or are you just one of those people that like to try and hurt others just for the sake of it? No reasoning with one of them. ~ User:Soronthebeast


 * Leave me crap and I will see that you are blocked. With love, me. --User:MehMuh.


 * Sign your messages with four tildes, or you will die, mwahahaha.
 * =P
 * =) MM (talk!) 13:40, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Table of Contents
Hey there MM, I was just wondering if you could help me out by showing me where I can find wiki tutorials about making stuff like Tables of Contents. Thanks, and let me know! --Prodigal Sorceress 12:21, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

No, actually. I did a little research and found out that it was automatic. I guess those guides are there for a reason ^_^;;. Thanks though. --Prodigal Sorceress 12:00, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Message: "Bye guys"
I've got stuff for about a whole month. If you see me here, smack some sense into me and tell me that I've got life-changing events going on.

I'm also in love.

But, my guy is toying with me.

But, I'm in love.

GeoMike, please keep me in line. Thank you.

Oracle of Truth, you too, buddy.

MORT, I'll see you when you get back, and after I get back.

Other guys, keep cool. Thanks.

Hey, at least you guys are free of me when it's that time of the month, right? *rolleyes*

Sorry, TMI; I know. MM (talk!) 07:57, 10 August 2008 (EDT)


 * Actually, I'm sort of in love and out of love. Sometimes one, sometimes the other, sometimes both. It's actually scary and depressive. :( MM (talk!) 05:55, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

Thx for tagging
Somehow I missed the whole thing.^^ Oracle of Truth 09:10, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Super trample
I was unsure about the correct way of the capitalization of super trample, because I thought it would be best to do it the same way as in most other Magic slang articles like shock lands, Wrath effect, Mana screw and Free spells, but there are also articles were both words are capitalized like High flying and there are articles were none of the words is capitalized like you sugested like Mana curve, Silver bullet and Growing permanents. Sloth 09:20, 13 August 2008 (EDT)


 * I was talking about in-article capitalization. Did you read the articles I linked? Sloth 12:00, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Sorry, have been messing around with some of the articles today. I hope you two don't mind. Oracle of Truth 13:37, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Of course I don't mind. So no capitalization of Magic slang is the way to go. I try to remember that. Sloth 16:22, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Time formatting
Hi, what about time formatting, and where to discuss? If it's ok here and you mean general time formatting in our articles, then I'd suggest to keep it consistent with mtg.com, since we have tons of references that already use this format ;) . It is also less ambiguous to Europeans compared to other (shorter) options. Oracle of Truth 19:19, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Discussion continued on User talk:Oracle of Truth

Alacar Leoricar and licence issues
Have you checked with him whether it's ok to post all his stuff here? Remember that everything is made available under the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 licence (at least nominally), obviously excluding the copyrighted stuff from Wizards (actually we really really have to mark all that material someday). Even if we forget about this a moment, he might not be comfortable with it. Oracle of Truth 06:40, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks
Thanks for creating a page for me. That way I can be still "too cool" and without user page ;-) And thanks for all your edits. I see you're orginising and clarifying some parts of the wiki before leaving. I hope you'll do the same in those parts of your life which make you leave us. We'll be waiting when you're ready to return. If you will. After all, there are higher priorities in life than wiki. Anyway, thanks again. (Does the sui-block even work? I mean, can you edit before unblocking yourself?) -- M ORT (T) 15:01, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

My talk page
Please let me manage my talk page myself, thanks -.-. Oracle of Truth 12:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Page moves
You will se me in the face of your friends, as the man on the street, or even your enemies. I am everywhere!!! *Dramatic music* Heh! Almost like in the movies with darkman eh??? Flavortext 03:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * OMG, man, did you even read her comment on your page? Chronologically, dude. Twist.Jack 14:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Lol, chillax. But, WickedDarkman/BirdMaiden/Flavortext/DarkwingDuck/Faceless Wanderer, please heed Twist.Jack's comment; "Chronologically, dude.". (LOL, 'dude'. :P) Don't add your text at the top of the comment sections of user talk pages, but after what you're replying to, or at the bottom of the page -- unless it specifies to do so otherwise.  MM (talk!)  15:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Budget Cadet Response
I'll try. I'm not sure how easy it'll be for me to be fair on it. I just saw the page and noticed that there was one there that probably should be there. If I'm doing anything wrong, please say so.

BTW, is there any kind of wiki guidelines/how to that I should know about?

Reverts
Sorry, lost some of your edits because of reverts, hope you don't mind. Now something unrelated, Shards of Alara (storyline) seems to be a duplicate of Alara, would it be ok to delete the page? Oracle of Truth 13:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Captcha
What's this crap?! Why do I have to put up with it if I want to post a link?! SB 15:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Sidebar
Hi, please don't mess around with the sidebar that much, the more entries there are the more difficult it is to find anything ;) . I don't think it's necessary to link to the Salvation article and Gatherer is not part of Salvation. What's spy btw? Oracle of Truth 13:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah magiccards.info was a good idea, that's why it's still there ;) . Oracle of Truth 23:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, please don't be condescending. That would be super-appreciated! ;) (Added in retrospect.) MM (talk!) 06:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

"Take a step back and just relax"
Fine, OK?! Twist.Jack 15:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Archives+two unrelated things
What do you mean here? Afaik, everything in August and September was accounted for, they were either on one of the archives or on the current events page. And phew, that was a messy business. Glad it's more or less over. Oh and the first unrelated thing, I think you are confusing em dash (aka long dash) with en dash (aka short dash) again ;) . Second unrelated thing: sry, for getting on your nerves the whole week, but hey weekend is coming. Cya, Oracle of Truth 21:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, em and en dash are considerably longer than your standard hyphen. That's all. MM (talk!) 04:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Just one more thing today, promise
I'm not sure if welcoming IPs is necessary, I mean, next time that user is online, he or she'll probably have a new one so... Oracle of Truth 21:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok? Depends if it's a dynamic IP, or whatever it's called. So long as it gets people to register. XD MM (talk!) 04:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Part 1
On this: http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/The_Fallen_Evincar

1.) "Gimmicks" That was not a confirmed gimmick of TFE, they don't even share the same IP. He hasn't had a confirmed gimmick in years. If you want to actually list all of the confirmed TFE gimmicks, you could, but don't half-ass it and buy into Annorax jokes or assume every random noob is TFE. He hasn't stepped foot in MTGS in ages, considering it quite pathetic. 2.) " Other activity" Don't understand the "formerly"? He still does run Coloholics Anonymous and the blog. 3.) "Coloholics Anonymous" There isn't any daily spamming or recruitment campaigns on MTGS, the Colosseum, or MTGN, and Epic World has already BEEN moved to Coloholics. I also kind of laughed at your "Hilary! This r funneh. MTGS' Colosseum is still getting spammed daily at a huge rate.)" Since when did you know a thing about real veterans or the Colosseum? I never saw you post there, it hasn't been happening at all, in fact the MTGS Colosseum is pretty much dead. Hell, its mod Nai posts more on Coloholics than in that crappy Colo.

Stick to what you know, because you seem to be a noob concerning TFE/Colosseum/Coloholics matters, and don't flood the MTGSwiki with your own subjective supposition. The point is, either get rid of the page entirely or actually do a non-retarded job of it. I'd actually prefer you erasing it entirely if you're going to fill it with bullshit.

(4:02:53 PM) Sanbud: uhhhh (4:02:58 PM) Sanbud: why did you think that was me? (4:10:33 PM) BorgAnnorax: a couple IP matches and his listing TRM as referrer (4:10:39 PM) Sanbud: well, it wasn't (4:10:43 PM) Sanbud: you guys must be retarded or something (4:10:53 PM) BorgAnnorax: lol (4:11:02 PM) Sanbud: I don't appreciate getting gimmicks assigned to me when they're not me, if I show up, you'll know it. (4:11:19 PM) Sanbud: Every random retard or guy familiar with TFE mythology isn't me. :/ <BR>(4:11:28 PM) BorgAnnorax: True, I just joking really. <BR>(4:11:31 PM) Sanbud: I haven't made a gimmick there in ages. <BR>(4:11:46 PM) BorgAnnorax: You have better shit to do anyway <BR>(4:11:51 PM) Sanbud: So it kind of makes me guffaw when I glance at MTGS and see all this weird TFE mythology. <BR>(4:11:59 PM) Sanbud: ITS TFE <BR>(4:12:18 PM) Sanbud: I feel like I've been doing things I don't even know about. <BR>(4:12:32 PM) Sanbud: Hell, Magic Mage is such a retard he actually edited that stuff into the Wiki. Since when did that noob know anything about the old days or the Colosseum? <BR>(4:12:50 PM) Sanbud: And talked about how MTGS is being spammed daily by CA or something. <BR>(4:13:18 PM) Sanbud: They're enlarging my demon legend or something and giving me activity credit and attributing gimmicks to me that aren't even me, it's like I'm everywhere at the same time. <BR>(4:13:22 PM) Sanbud: I haven't shown up there in ages


 * 1) Don't waste my time.<BR>
 * 2) Learn how to line-break properly.<BR>
 * 3) She.<BR>
 * 4) You are the retard, etc., etc., as are your overlords whom you barn.<BR>
 * 5) Why do Avatar of Kokusho and the moderators post the bannings of the users, stating that they're the gimmicks of The Fallen Evincar?<BR>
 * 6) No, really, who are you?<BR>
 * 7) By the way, ever tried gimmicks? Stick to what you know, and stop making an ass out of yourself. ;)
 * 8) And, go ahead, provide a list of TFE's gimmicks; as well as other content on your user talk page (here). Currently, his page is little more than a template. MM (talk!) 00:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You have 24 hours to answer these questions. Go. MM (talk!) 00:53, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Part 2
1.) I don't give a fuck 2.) I don't give a fuck 3.) I don't give a fuck 4.) Who are you again? Noob. 5.) Some of those might be gimmicks, but just as many of them are either mod idiocy, joking, or faux-TFEs. So generally it's better (especially for clueless noobs like you) to not post any gimmicks at all. 6.) I don't give a fuck. It doesn't really matter, suffice to say to me you're some random misinformed noob. 7.) I don't give a fuck etc.

Because really, your wiki-boasting and random b.s., or the fact I'm not linebreaking or what genitalia you have, I could care less about it. All I came here to do was to point out your half-assery, noob lack of MTGS knowledge especially the Colosseum, and falling for Annorax jokes. That wasn't a gimmick, making a gimmick list would be asinine and it would be too difficult to figure out who's TFE and who's just a retard such as yourself. 60% of "TFE gimmicks" tend to be retards, TFEists, people trying to be funny, or in the case of the one Rax jokingly referred to, random people. I don't see the point in a gimmick section anyway, especially because other similar even more retarded banned members with gimmick armies like KCW don't have theirs listed. It isn't "formerly" run Coloholics, and there isn't any daily spamming of the Colosseum (When have you ever even stepped foot in there noob? Stick to what you know)

So basically, that entire paragraph of points of mine were totally valid, and you responded with half-assed DONT WASTE MY TIME IMA GURL DONT U KNO HOW TO LINEBREAK DA INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. Though by deleting the page you did sort of concede how shitty you'd made it to be. Better for it to not exist at all.

Like I said, if you're going to do a half-assed job out of pages, don't even make them. I see it's deleted now, which is better than the hilariously misinformed crap you had up. They should at least have someone on the Wiki staff here who's actually been around long enough to remember or know about this stuff, rather than random noobs. WUTS A TFE I HERD HE HAD BARNZ HE SUXX LOL..


 * Rather than be a flaming troll - not to mention an unpleasant arse - how about you contribute instead? When the page was live, you didn't edit it, improve it, or anything; why the hell are you complaining? In any case, enough of this nonsense. For whatever it's worth, go have a cry about my erring of that list. If you wanted to have done anything productive, you could have posted up a list of TFE gimmicks or written more egoboasting BS to his article.


 * kcw, oh kcw. The eternal struggle between funny and funny; TFE vs. kcw. kingcobweb has his gimmicks listed, and so will all other members, in time.


 * But, for now, you go work on your civility. I'm irate, but I'll give you one chance; you've used it just now. Come back in three days if you wish to whine more, ktnxbai. MM (talk!) 02:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Stuff this, you're blocked.


 * Grow up, you puerile twat. Deleting the page concedes what? How about, your face!


 * As for your words and such, I don't really care; but I'm polite enough not to say, "I don't give a fuck". This isn't Coloholics, the Gutter, 'tings, so watch your language. Because you use this filth, it'd be unfair to let these words be unrequited.


 * "Noob" has nothing to do with anything. What's to say I haven't had a gimmick since the initial days?


 * Sign your messages, and actually contribute to the wiki, instead of simply criticizing. See you whenever you and your groupthinking cronies come back or whenever one of us sysops feel like unblocking you. Ktnxbai. MM (talk!) 06:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Ajani Goldmane
Hi, why are you removing all instances of "Ajani Goldmane"? Goldmane is Ajani's surname, so a redirect should suffice. Oracle of Truth 12:48, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Cutting down on redirects. I don't know what's going on, what's protocol; but IMO, planeswalker's supertype should be the actual. Any mentions of a specific form of the card or of the character will be a redirect. If I cut down on Ajani Goldmane, it was perhaps due to my laxness. Or something. MM (talk!) 13:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Apart from Ajani the redirects you deleted really were unnecessary, so thumbs up in general. In the case of Ajani however, a lot of articles were linking it, since Goldmane is already established in the storyline, so there was no need to change it. After all redirects are meant to facilitate linking and searching. We should probably introduce categories for redirects in the future, like the ones on Wikipedia. That would make sure that in the long run sensible redirects aren't removed and redundant ones don't stay. Oracle of Truth 15:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, hurrah, some approval! Lots of the talk page redirects came from talk pages with no main namespace page. I don't know whether to lol at that (:P) or feel pretty cheesed-off (:-/). MM (talk!) 16:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Magic Mage, I got an e-mail saying that a user talk page for me had been created. You show up as the editor to contact. It also says you're the one who created the page.

However what had actually happened was that mine was deleted.

I guess I don't care if it was deleted (although it wasn't empty; it seems my contributions to the Blue page (being that I made the thing) have persisted. I'm saying I'm wondering why the e-mail message that I got was so wrong.

Now, I don't understand what's happened. The e-mail links to a page which exists, but is empty. But if I click links which lead me back to where I started, they tell me that the page *doesn't* exist, and that I'm creating it. It also cautions me that the page was deleted before (also by you). It has an annotation, but I can't read it, since it goes into ellipses that don't expand. Horseshoe Hermit 19:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Horseshoe Hermit's user page
Sorry for not having a title before. Anyway, *I* certainly didn't put any of the stuff on my first user page. Oh well.

I should be able to do work on the Color Pie articles, although I'm not very good at 'upkeep', just getting stubs off the ground, or actually checking changes in the facts. The language in the Blue page is weak, but I don't know how to make it better. I'd be disposed to upkeep our rules pages now (example: I see something I can do on Card types). Horseshoe Hermit 15:55, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Talk pages
Why are you deleting so many talk pages? --GeoMike 01:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Many are unneeded, with their issues dealt with, some even dating back to 2005 (when the wiki was not open to the public). Others don't really have a purpose; those left do, have some significance, or something. MM (talk!) 01:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I was going to ask the same question. I'd probably save some storyline talks you've deleted, but otherwise, good job. -- M ORT (T) 20:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Type I & Type II pages
What was wrong with having the Type I and Type II pages? There were just redirects. I still think of Type I and Type II, and others. Standard, Vintage, Legacy are still not etched in my brain sometimes - if that makes any sense. We might have some users search for Type I or Type II even. --GeoMike 17:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, but could we get these format pages cleaned-up? You make a valid point, I'll concede; but, do people type Type 2, or Type [2x capital "i"]? MM (talk!) 02:49, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, my apologies. MM (talk!) 02:49, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The reason why I've been purging the redirects, is because there are about five or so (maybe a little exaggeration there) redirects for one format. That, to me, is at least two too many. MM (talk!) 02:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the best would be a redirect for "Type 1" and a redirect for "Type 2", maybe one for "Type 1.5" also. --GeoMike 10:27, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Right, so long as the pages aren't simply left there. All formats are pretty messed up, and I have no idea why variant formats are considered standard formats; they should be categorized under variants, and that category should be categorized under formats. But whatever. :|


 * I should be gone for a month or two, or maybe forever if I feel that bad about my exams. Just a heads up there. MM (talk!) 10:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * As always, best of luck to you :) --GeoMike 13:41, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Category
We have a category Product image, so I thought the correct thing to do would be category User Image, not the plural User images. --GeoMike 03:00, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

From the Vault: Dragons
I really like the gallery section you created on From the Vault: Dragons. Looks great :) --GeoMike 11:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, thanks. Hannes hasn't uploaded them onto the magiccards.info database, so I got around to uploading them on to the wiki on a pro tem basis... that will last till someone complains or does something about it. :P MM (talk!) 11:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Links

 * Turn structure

Ban user
Hi, your user talk page is locked. Please ban Harry1999 for advertising, thanks. The Biographer 14:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. MM (talk!) 14:16, 25 November 2008 (UTC)