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I like what you're doing with the counters page and putting tables on it :)

Main page[]

Heya Corveroth, I saw your post on the Main Page talk page, and it seems like we independently came up with a lot of similar ideas, including moving the news section higher and what to post about. Let's try to make something happen here, shall we? In particular, I'm all about an active News section akin to the one on Wikipedia; although newsworthy events don't occur as often in the world of Magic, obviously, I think we could do better than just the new sets: I'm thinking Pro Tour/Worlds/WMC events at the very least, Hall of Fame elections, exciting announcements such as Zendikar Expeditions and there being double-faced Planeswalkers in Origins, changes to organized play (FNMs being able to feature any format, the PTQ system change, that sort of thing), et cetera. There is upkeep here, of course, but I'm up for it. --Sene (talk) 19:05, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


See Template:Dominaria. I think it may interest you. I haven't linked yet the template to each of the places. --Tuamir (talk) 08:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Counters discussion[]

I finally replied to the Counters discussion, sorry I haven't been on here much. GeoMike --LegacymtgsalvationUser1033 (talk) 18:02, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.26 upgrade[]

Hello. We just updated to 1.26. We're still going through and correcting some bugs and such, but I remembered you were looking for a newer version of Scribuntu a couple months ago and wanted to let you know it should be here now. If you run into any problems or bugs let me know. --Sigilbaram (talk) 19:16, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

So this is why the search was bugged yesterday, huh. --Sene (talk) 08:23, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thopters, i.e. the wings of "tho"[]

Hi. I saw your note about the "wings of tho". I actually didn't know what to write as the introductory line. I didn't want to be offensive there, but I think whoever created the "ornithopter" word was a learned person, while who created the "roterothopter" and "thopter" words didn't know a thing about etymology and didn't do any research. How can I express that more politely? Still, I hope you agree that the "wing of the erotic wheel" is a funny word, worth the Unglued set! My sources? I did my studies in Continental Europe, and I studied a bit of Ancient Greek in high school. I cannot put a reference link to my memory and to some school books not written in English, can I? --Abacos (talk) 08:57, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Hey there! There are a few issues going on, but I think we can work it out. The section in question is currently in tension with all three of Wikipedia's core content policies: the phrasing of the sentences above are of dubious neutrality, it appears to consist mostly of original research, and as a consequence of the last, it is generally not verifiable. By and large, I don't personally disagree with much of what you've written, and I think that content of that type is appropriate for the page. However, while "ornithopter" is a word in broader use and easily verified by the citation you provided, the etymologies you give for "telethopter" and "roterothopter" are debatable, and there is no source offering those constructions prior to your synthesis on the page. That is the thrust of the "no original research" policy - the synthesis should not be novel to the wiki, but instead pulled from (ideally secondary) sources. (Aside: if you felt compelled, yes, you absolutely could use whatever school books you like as sources. Sources may be of any language!)
Now, in practice, this is a gaming wiki, and we tend to find a shortage of scholarly papers to cite. Instead, we rely heavily on "Word of God" from Mark Rosewater's blog and primary sources, and much more infrequently we can cite popular blogs like ChannelFireball and MTGGoldfish. And yet, we have a great deal more content than can be explained from those sources, and I don't doubt that original research is a nontrivial part of that. An ideal solution here would be for scholars such as yourself to publish their research elsewhere, and cite that. This may seem like a roundabout approach to the same ends, except that someone with a differing view or stronger evidence will be able to address your writing in a more constructive manner than simply erasing it in favor of their own. If you cannot bring yourself to go to those lengths, I'd like to make a personal request that you reconsider your constructions in light of the possibility that the inventors of those words disregarded the real-world origins of "ornithopter", and set "thopter" as a root word within the game universe. That eliminates both the unknown "tho" in the middle of "tele-thopter", and presents "rotero-thopter" instead of "rot-erotho-pter". I think this is a much more plausible etymology than one that paints a device akin to a murderous corkscrew as an erotic machine. (This debate, right here, should serve as fodder for the section we're discussing, but we can't cite talk pages!) --Corveroth (talk) 23:44, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Actually since you mention word of god... Sometimes it is a good strategy to ask MaRo about these things. He usually shows interest in these things and why you explain to him how you read "rot-erotho-pter", he will probably say he did not know that. I think the whole thing came to be, because orni-thopter splits naturally in orni and thopter for an English speaker - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 04:03, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Just leaving a note.[]


I tried to add Atog/Ravenous Intruder to the functional reprint (MtG) page, but it wouldn't let me. Maybe someone else can do it.


Thx for the shoutout at Blogatog, it is really appreciated --Hunter (talk) 09:04, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Direct link. Thank you, Hunter! :) --Sene (talk) 12:46, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Now I understand why you changed all the reference link, I didn't realize it (I'm a bit slow...) Commendable work! --Firebead elvenhair (talk) 13:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Nobody deservers that more than you, Hunter. Kudos! - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 16:07, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
When Wizards broke all of those links, I simply despaired at the scale of the task. I think I fixed fewer than a dozen links before simply giving up. Hunter, your devotion and stamina are inspiring, and your decision to buckle down and perform that maintenance has done wonders for averting the tragedy of the commons and proving the vitality of this wiki. --Corveroth (talk) 23:21, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Dashes in glossary entries[]

I looked at the lua code, and I have no idea why the code behaves like it does:

  • {{CR|Double-Faced Cards}} (works)
  • {{CR|glossary|Double-Faced Cards}} (Lua throws an error)
  • {{CR|glossary|Double}} (finds Double-Faced Cards, which will be a problem once Double becomes part of the CR)

- Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 12:27, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Dash is the lazy quantifier, probably some silly flow error on my part leading to that being used unescaped. Thanks for the heads up, I'll check it out tonight. --Corveroth (talk) 16:31, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Pretty sure that fixes it. --Corveroth (talk) 00:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that will work now. The thing still finds Double-faced cards if you put in Double lets see how that turns out once the CR is updated. - Yandere Sliver H09 symbol.png 09:40, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Don't block IP addresses indefinite[]

Anonymous users should generally be blocked for no more than 2 weeks as IP addresses are more often than not dynamically assigned. --MarkusRost (talk) 09:44, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Judge Promo 2016[]

So, I know it says that the promo 1/8 for 2016 is unknown/unreleased, but it was supposed to be Stoneforge Mystic. It got pulled to replace a GP promo that was for whatever reason pulled.

I managed to acquire a copy marked as a Judge promo rather than a GP promo (not sure how to provide picture here), in case proof is needed that it was at one point a Judge promo.

My question is, would it be appropriate to make a note of that on the Judge Gift page? The RoguePyro (talk) 12:34, 15 January 2019 (UTC)